Metaphysics

Sunday, July 1st, 2001 06:36 am
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At last I have got round to starting the third and final part of my mega-paper Notes Towards a Philosophy of Desire (pretentious, huh?). Working title for Part III is "Metaphysics and other flaky stuff", though if I ever want to get it published I'll have to think of something a little more academic-sounding.

This part is the most interesting for me, but also the hardest, since what I'm trying to do is relate the straightforward, bottom-up approach of the first two parts to the grandiose, top-down approach of my overall philosophy. This is something I've been trying unsuccessfully to achieve for the past two years, so I'm not sure if I'm up to the challenge.

The basis of the metaphysical part is a kind of substance-dualism, though a Tantrik rather than a Cartesian one. Any system of ordered information (objects, events, qualities etc.) are classed as "pattern" (in Indian Tantra, Shakti or "power"), leaving only a structureless and suitably undefined "awareness" (Shiva in Tantra) as the other element. A thought is thus simply an encoded pattern of which something is aware. To be more accurate, perhaps I should say "in relation to which there is awareness", since I haven't got as far as subjects yet.

The way I'm trying to link this to desire is to assume that patterns of sufficient complexity have what I call "intrinsic tendencies", which is a bit like Aristotelean telos but more modest in its implications (e.g. I'll accept that an apple has an intrinsic tendency to grow into an apple tree, but not to become food for humans). Some really complex patterns generate or tie into awareness in some way I haven't worked out yet and probably never will. Put the two together and you get desire. If an apple were aware, it might well think "Oh, to be a noble apple tree!", and, to twist John Searle's example, if a heart were aware, it would probably be thinking "Gotta pump that blood, boy."

What do you people think? Have I got a brilliant new theory which solves the "Hard problem", or have I gone completely over the edge?

Date: 2001-07-02 02:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] solri.livejournal.com
I'm not at all well up on Heidegger (or down on Heidegger, as I believe the phrase is now) so I'm not sure if I've got your gist. When you talk about awareness here, do you mean the awareness of an observer or the hypothetical apple-awareness I was talking about?

Date: 2001-07-02 04:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inignitable.livejournal.com
the observer entering into the world of the apple

the world of the apple being the essence of what apples are

Date: 2001-07-02 08:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] solri.livejournal.com
Is that essence as in Aristotle or Sartre, or does Heidegger use "essence" differently? I'm sorry, phenomenology really isn't my strong point.

prepositions!

Date: 2001-07-02 05:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-fauxpas266.livejournal.com
No, no, no! If you're down on Heidegger, you don't like him, and you are criticizing or belittling him. If you're down with Heidegger, then you're knowledgeable about him and/or you are a fan of sorts.

Re: prepositions!

Date: 2001-07-02 08:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] solri.livejournal.com
OK, let's see if I've got this right.

I'm not down with Heidegger, because I haven't read him (shame on me!).

I'm not down on Heidegger because I don't particularly have anything against his philosophy (his politics ....well).

I'm certainly not going down on Heidegger.

Going down on Heidegger

Date: 2001-07-02 06:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-fauxpas266.livejournal.com
Ah yes, I thought of that little gem of a joke about two seconds too late.

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