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Robin Turner ([personal profile] robinturner) wrote2003-02-25 01:02 am

We live and learn

Although many of my anti-war, anti-Bush postings are phrased in strong language, I always try to be fair and respect the facts as far as I know them. Thus I conceded that Saddam Hussein is a brutal dictator (which everyone knows, including the US when they were supporting him) and went along with the line that he used chemical weapons against his own citizens. Then I happened on this article from the New York Times by Stephen Pelletiere, a fromer CIA political analyst:

“[A]ll we know for certain is that Kurds were bombarded with poison gas that day at Halabja. We cannot say with any certainty that Iraqi chemical weapons killed the Kurds. This is not the only distortion in the Halabja story. … This much about the gassing at Halabja we undoubtedly know: it came about in the course of a battle between Iraqis and Iranians. Iraq used chemical weapons to try to kill Iranians who had seized the town, which is in northern Iraq not far from the Iranian border. The Kurdish civilians who died had the misfortune to be caught up in that exchange. But they were not Iraq's main target. And the story gets murkier: immediately after the battle the United States Defense Intelligence Agency investigated and produced a classified report, which it circulated within the intelligence community on a need-to-know basis. That study asserted that it was Iranian gas that killed the Kurds, not Iraqi gas. The agency did find that each side used gas against the other in the battle around Halabja. The condition of the dead Kurds' bodies, however, indicated they had been killed with a blood agent — that is, a cyanide-based gas — which Iran was known to use. The Iraqis, who are thought to have used mustard gas in the battle, are not known to have possessed blood agents at the time.”

Source: www.cooperativeresearch.org/wotiraq/saddamisevil.htm

i know this is off topic, but.....

[identity profile] arbiteroftruth.livejournal.com 2003-02-24 03:18 pm (UTC)(link)
the other day i meant to say gandhi. please note that for the record.

as stated previously: typos eviscerate me.

[identity profile] drx.livejournal.com 2003-02-24 03:18 pm (UTC)(link)
damn good stuff and really nails home my last anti-anti/pro-war rant.

more intelligence and decisive action less marching... *nods*

[identity profile] cassielsander.livejournal.com 2003-02-24 03:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, man. I'm going to have to look into this; that was one charge that I always believed because it surfaced back when the Iraqis were the GoodGuys (tm). I definitely need to read up.

[identity profile] blorky.livejournal.com 2003-02-24 05:53 pm (UTC)(link)
The info that Pellitier mentions has been floating around for a few years - both countries were trying to gas the city of Halabja, but Iran's weapons happened to be somewhat more effective. HR Watch does a good (ie, balanced) job of describing SH's history with the Kurds. http://www.hrw.org/reports/1993/iraqanfal/