Thelema question

[robinturner]

A question for all you Thelemites out there ...

Can you recommend a good introductory site to Crowley/Thelema that is neither straight propaganda ("We are the real OTO") nor too difficult for someone with no occult knowledge who doesn't have English as their first language.

The reason I'm asking is that one of my students is supposed to be giving a presentation on Crowley, and judging by the fact that she asked me if Crowley was a Satanist, she's obviously floundering. Most of the site I found by googling around were either too esoteric, 404s or just plain sloppy (e.g. couldn't even spell "templars").

Comments

[katminnaar.livejournal.com]

keith418 is the user you want to ask. Thelemics and the OTO are his *specialty* and he could probably give you tons of info as to whether AC was a Satanist, etc.

Good luck!

[rodneyorpheus.livejournal.com]

http://www.otohq.org

provides a very straightforward and standard overview.

Tim Maroney's "Introduction to Crowley in 5 voices" is a great examination to:

http://maroney.org/CrowleyIntro/index.html

There's a pretty decent excerpt from my book on my own site that she might find useful (and interesting, given that you yourself are mentioned in said book a couple of times :-)

http://www.rodneyorpheus.de/abrahadabra/chapter6.html

Most of the other sites are not worth your time.

Rodney

[solri.livejournal.com]

Cheers - that OTO site was exactly what I was looking for. I liked the chapter from your book too - it reminded me of a conversation we had about Liber Oz years ago. I remember you saying "Look, it says the slaves shall serve, it doesn't say the slaves shall slave."

Actually I was pretty surprised that anyone chose Crowley - I just added him to the list of possible presentation topics out of mischief. There were two really sweet, quiet girls who missed the initial signing up (most people went for the Islamic mystics, since they were more familiar, or for some variety of Buddhism) To my shock, one of them picked Tantra and the other picked Crowley. The Tantra presentation was a riot. I'd lent the student my copy of Mookerjee's The Tantric Way and she photocopied the most outre pictures in the book as a handout (I could hear muttered conversations in Turkish like "What does 'corpse of Shiva' mean?" "Shiva's dead body." "She's shagging a dead guy? Bleugh!"). She also got her friend (the one who's about to do Crowley) to act as an assistant so she could point out where the chakras were, but forgot that the friend was ticklish.

[(Anonymous)]

Alma Mater durumu. (bkz. Moonspell)
tabii farklı anlayışlar gibi duruyo ama sistemlerin yapmaya çalıştığı yakın geldi.

alakası olmayabilir. çok yüzeysel okudum.

tabii ben buraya nerden düştüm onu da bilmiyorum ama... neyse.

[solri.livejournal.com]

Anlayamadım. Hangi sistemler?