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It looks like I am about to commit the heresy of teaching a course on fantasy without mentioning Joseph Campbell. For two courses on Tolkien I dutifully included the most readable text on the Hero's Journey I could find, and had students apply it to The Hobbit, The Lord of the Rings and Star Wars—the last because it's about the only epic tale that closely follows Campbell, and that's only because Lucas made it so. The Hero's Journey is like any of these structuralist templates: it works up to a point, but that point is usually nothing to make a song and dance about. After we'd diligently applied Campbell's wisdom to a variety of fairy tales and legends in addition to the above fantasy classics, I threw up my hands and said, "Well, what we can conclude here is that all stories have a beginning, a middle and an end."

The real problem, though, is that it's very hard to get any decent writing from students infected with the Hero meme. I set two choices for the second essay in the Tolkien course: the first was to compare Tolkien's view of evil with that of any other fantasy or SF author; the second, as you've probably guessed already, was to apply the Hero's Journey idea to TLOTR and any other fantasy or SF work. With a few exceptions, the essays on the first topic were better. Maybe it was self-selection, as the good students were more likely than their weaker classmates to tackle a subject which required contrasting Boethean and Manichean evilology; on the other hand, there is the possibility that Campbellism actually encourages mechanical essay-writing (not to mention script-writing).

And there you have another problem: setting students an essay about the Hero's Journey is an open invitation to low-level, cut-and-paste plagiarism. There are so many essays out there, that the temptation to take an idea from one, a sentence from another and the works cited page of a third is hard to resist. And even if you want to write an entirely original paper, you risk unwittingly reproducing the work of others. I mean it would probably be OK to apply Campbell's ideas to The Happy Hooker, but write about TLOTR and what can you say? Gandalf isn't the Herald? Moria isn't the Belly of the Whale? Those eagles have nothing to do with Magical Flight? Of course there is the most important and totally un-Campbellian point that Frodo is not on a quest to find a talisman but to destroy one, but that too has been gone over in hundreds of high school essays.

Maybe it's time to bid farewell to the Hero with a Thousand Faces. We've come a long way together, but, as Tom Shippey once said in a class I was in, we need new archetypes—even if that's an oxymoron. Perhaps the interesting fantasy heroes are the ones on a different journey.

Here's one:

Date: 2010-06-16 08:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elderly-vrouw.livejournal.com
What about an essay crit of THWATF? Or even, why would Campbell *not* have written THWATF if he were writing now?

Re: Here's one:

Date: 2010-06-16 08:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] solri.livejournal.com
Actually the essay I set was supposed to involve assessing the whole Hero's Journey idea, but very few students (the exceptions I mentioned) managed it. I love the second idea, but I think that would be even further beyond most of my students. OTOH, if I ever get the time, it's a paper I'd love to write myself.

Date: 2010-06-16 11:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jaipur.livejournal.com
Wait, what happened to Beowulf? the classic hero stories? Or did it have to be post-Renaissance fantasy they were writing about?

Date: 2010-06-17 05:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eve-prime.livejournal.com
Somewhere in my vast stacks of papers I have an interesting one about a female version of the quest story. I wish I could find it for you!

Date: 2010-06-17 07:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] solri.livejournal.com
These students wouldn't be able to handle anything pre-Hobbit.

Date: 2010-06-17 11:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jaipur.livejournal.com
Ah. :( Pity, that--I always found the pairing of the Beowulf reading and the Grendel book to be an important thing to wrap one's head around.

But what about the book Orcs, that does for Orcs something like what the book Grendel does for that monster? It's not a retelling of LoTR but it does tell a story where Orcs are the heroes. I'm no judge of language difficulty, but it seems like it might appeal to someone in the class.

Do any of the students play the fantasy first person shooter games? or WoW? Does that affect their interactions with this material?

Date: 2010-06-17 02:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cassielsander.livejournal.com
I loved Campbell to pieces when I first discovered him, bought a bunch of books and took the vhses out of the library, etc. But as soon as I heard people using him to analyze fiction (especially writers talking about their own work) I got tired of it real fast.

My "Myths & Fairy Tales" class also used Bruno Bettelheim's Uses Of Enchantment. I have zero recollection of it but it may be worth looking at for helpful stuff.

Date: 2010-06-19 06:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] solri.livejournal.com
Hmmm, Bettelheim is a possibility.

Date: 2010-06-19 06:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] solri.livejournal.com
The game aspect could be interesting. Actually, one of the texts I'm thinking of using is about race in fantasy games.

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