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[I apologise in advance for the style of this post. Since I have spent the last few weeks reading student papers, I am influenced by the way they often insist on explaining the most basic terms; thus an essay on the Nichomachean Ethics may begin "Philosophy means 'love of wisdom' in Greek. Aristotle was a famous Greek philosopher." It's also a way to force myself to think before I type.]

Traditionally, philosophy has three main branches: epistemology, ethics and metaphysics. Epistemology asks the question "How do we know stuff?" Ethics asks "What kind of stuff should we do?" and metaphysics asks "What is this 'stuff' stuff anyway?" but I'm not concerned with those here; this post is about epistemology. It's also about the public/private distinction, which is well-known in political philosophy but less so (if at all) in epistemology. The only reason it occurred to me to put them together was that this semester I had to teach texts by Karl Popper, who was a famous epistemologist, and Hannah Arendt, who sometimes talked about the public/private distinction.

So on to Popper and epistemology. Karl Popper is the best-known and most widely accepted sensible philosopher of science. I say "sensible" because there are also wacky philosophers of science like Feyerabend and Kuhn. Popper is popular with scientists because he describes what scientists think they ought to be doing, rather than what they often do in practice (that's Feyerabend) or would secretly like to do (that's Kuhn). Popper's main idea is that you can't prove a theory right, but you can, with reasonable certainty, prove it wrong. As he puts it, the claim that all swans are white only needs a sighting of one black swan to be consigned to the dustbin of science. It's a bit like programming: you can never be sure that you have a bug-free program, but you can be sure when you have a buggy one. On the other hand, although even "Hello world" could in theory contain a bug, we can be fairly sure that it is bug-free. Scientific knowledge is thus analogous to programs that have been tested so extensively as to be, for all practical purposes, bug-free (TeX, for example).

Now this strikes me as a pretty good model for what I'm calling "public epistemology". This is concerned with shared knowledge. I can know with absolute certainty that I am in pain, and it would be absurd for someone to say "You think you're in pain, but actually you aren't." However, I can't turn this certainty into public knowledge, since the person I'm complaining to may have reasons to doubt my honesty. Public knowledge requires some kind of verification, or in Popperian terms, there should be some way we can falsify the claim. If I claim, to use another famous example, that there are fairies at the bottom of my garden, there not only has to be some kind of evidence that indicates that there might indeed be fairies at the bottom of the garden, there has to be some conceivable way that we could prove that there are no fairies there. If I keep trying to wiggle out of the objections by saying that, for example, only people who believe in fairies can see them, then my claim may be dismissed as unscientific, and my neighbour may have evidence for a counter-claim that I'm completely batty. (Of course this claim too would have to be falsifiable, which is not as simple as it looks.)

But should my inability to establish the existence of garden fairies as public knowledge prevent my believing in them? I would say not. After all, I can be absolutely certain that I see fairies in the same way that I can be absolutely certain that I am in pain. The big leap is from here to the proposition that there are actual fairies that I am seeing. If I only see them when I have also been eating the funny little mushrooms at the bottom of the garden, I will probably doubt their existence, but if the visions persist, and furthermore, I start having long conversations with Tinkerbell, my belief in fairies will be confirmed, even if it is not falsifiable, and there is no possibility of my being able to convince anyone else of their existence. If someone else starts seeing them, then we're doing science (or shrooms); otherwise, this is private epistemology, and it looks like the rules for private epistemology are different, and perhaps closer to pragmatism: if it works for you, then believe it.

Coming back to Hannah Arendt, her point was that the public realm (which includes her book about Eichmann) and the private realm (which includes her affair with Heidegger) are equally necessary, but should not be mixed up. Applying this principle to epistemology, this is why I think some famous militant atheists are wrong. In its most extreme form, the argument goes: "The statement that God exists is not falsifiable, so anyone who believes in God is just plain silly." Falsifiability is a good rule of thumb for public epistemology (which concerns what we can expect other people to believe), but it doesn't apply to private epistemology (which concerns what we ourselves believe). On the other hand, this is probably less pernicious than the arguments of those who try to turn private epistemology into public epistemology, such as the creators of the Creation Museum.

Date: 2007-05-25 01:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oblomova.livejournal.com
Many years ago, the members of this theater company (http://www.neofuturists.org/) performed at a benefit I helped organize for this group (http://www.chicagoabortionfund.com/). One of the short plays they did on that occasion involved a number of women holding jars with< these creatures (http://www.sea-monkey.com/) in them. Or so they alleged. "My sea monkey is a girl." "My sea monkey is going to be a doctor." Things like that.

One of the women kept insisting that she didn't see any thing in the jar of water she was holding. "But just because you can't see it doesn't mean it isn't there!" the others told her.

"Yeah, okay. Listen, you guys do whatever you want. I'm going to go toss this jar of water in the sink and then get a drink at the bar."

At which point, two men in cop uniforms hauled her off.

Not subtle, but effective! And it seems to me to speak to the public/private split you're addressing here.

Date: 2007-05-25 01:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] evan.livejournal.com
This is sorta (but more more thoroughly) what I was trying to say here regarding "personal experience". I suppose all religious faiths work this way, though my impression of the Judeo-Christian ones is that personal faith involves believing that the truths are public.

Date: 2007-05-25 02:29 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Thinking don't make it so! Public-private distinctions may be useful in some cases, but if one is making a statement about an objective characteristic of the physical world, then that puts this "knowledge" into the public realm.

Date: 2007-05-25 02:30 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Oh, this is Mark Travis, responding to your trawling the Stoic list, and not some Anonymous person.

Date: 2007-05-25 03:52 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ironed_orchid
I thought part of Arendt's point was that the private and the public were hopelessly mixed up in 20th C thinking.

I'll try to come back and read post more carefully when I'm not about to catch a bus.

Date: 2007-05-25 04:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trochee.livejournal.com
I like this distinction, and speaking as a non-philosopher (that is, I don't treat it as a calling) I am drawn to the public/private distinction.

I am amused by what I believe to be understatement in your last sentence. (and "just plain silly" is a surprisingly hard assertion to back up, regardless of who says it -- Dawkins or anyone else).

Date: 2007-05-25 04:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trochee.livejournal.com
PS I actually thought this was written by my friend [livejournal.com profile] elwe, not [livejournal.com profile] solri, at first, which is probably where the "believe to be understatement" comes from in my comment there -- my model for your private epistemology has rather high confidence that this is understatement; that for [livejournal.com profile] elwe has a somewhat lower confidence -- though still pretty high. (He's Anglican, not Pentecostal.)

a possible post-structuralist thesis

Date: 2007-05-25 05:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] niveau.livejournal.com
Hmm, I'm not sure we can be so readily ignorant of aesthetics. It doesn't seem to fit with either branch you identify. Indeed, it may be possible that in the very definition of philosophy as epistemology, ethics, and metaphysics you must necessarily presuppose some non-philosophical excess that comports each of these different divisions as attempts at articulating this traumatic kernel. Aesthetics seems to me to fit the bill as this excess because it doesn't readily offer itself up as rationale and yet does fulfil the criteria of contemplation.

Maybe it's just the Nietzschean line on this speaking - a theory of aesthetics is a theory of power, and the one thing philosophy tends to shirk is its own biases brought on by cultural baggage, e.g. the misogyny of Aristotelian ethics.

Date: 2007-05-25 10:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] solri.livejournal.com
Hi Mark. I'm not sure the objective/subjective divide exactly matches the public/private divide, but then I'm not sure about anything in that post - I'm just playing with these ideas at the moment to see where they lead me.

Date: 2007-05-25 10:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] solri.livejournal.com
Yes, that was her point, but she thought it was a Bad Thing, as far as I can tell from my very limited reading.

Re: a possible post-structuralist thesis

Date: 2007-05-25 10:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] solri.livejournal.com
Ah, I wasn't saying that epistemology, ethics and metaphysics defined philosophy, just that traditionally they were the three main branches. Obviously there are plenty of other branches.

Why is Aristotelean ethics misogynistic? Sure, Aristotle was misogynistic, but I don't see why that affects his ethics as a whole, any more than his rather kooky ideas about natural slavery.

Date: 2012-05-15 06:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] solri.livejournal.com
"On the other hand, although even "Hello world" could in theory contain a bug, we can be fairly sure that it is bug-free."

On second thoughts, this is not a good example, since I can't think of any possible way "Hello World" can contain a bug. Maybe the Popperian view of science breaks down at very simple levels, or maybe it's because computer programs count as mathematics, which doesn't follow the same rules as empirical science. Or maybe there really is a bug in "Hello World" but you can't see it unless you believe in it ;-)