Kindertotenlieder

Tuesday, February 1st, 2005 09:03 pm
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Our university's symphony orchestra has chosen Mahler's Kindertotenlieder for its concert to open the new semester. That's really going to put the kids at ease. Perhaps their next offering will be a chamber concert in the girls' dorms featuring Schubert's Death and the Maiden.
From: [identity profile] hfx-ben.livejournal.com
Greets ... the instant I heard the song here (''Laz Bar'') by name what came to mind was the hurdy-gurdy of ?what? Olde France.

I know how the Roma have carried their music and tradition up and through to Spain from N'n India, but this here just blew me away!

What say you?

(And apologies for the lateral move on the subject of your post.)
From: [identity profile] solri.livejournal.com
I couldn't get the link to play, but I'm guessing the instrument you're referring to is a kemençe, which is a kind of fiddle you play with the bottom resting on your knee. I don't know about Roma influence on Laz music (Turkey has its own Roma community, who have a distincitive musical style) but I reckon there might be a Celtic link. Certainly one Laz musician I know reckons there is. they even have bagpipes!
From: [identity profile] hfx-ben.livejournal.com
"I couldn't get the link to play ..."
Well darn ... gee that's frustrating. After all these years the web still isn't a mature and stable environment!

".. but I'm guessing the instrument you're referring to is a kemençe, which is a kind of fiddle you play with the bottom resting on your knee."
Could be ... gadd, listening to the clip again ... fabulous ... the usual array of percussion, some sort of flute, something like a guitar or mandolin, and then this, well, hurdy-gurdy sound.

"I don't know about Roma influence on Laz music (Turkey has its own Roma community, who have a distincitive musical style) ..."
From this I'd take it that you're drawing a distinction between Laz and Turkey; that exceeds my knowledge.

"... but I reckon there might be a Celtic link."
I find that totally fascinating ... the interface of Europe and the Orient.

"Certainly one Laz musician I know reckons there is."
I'm going to google "laz" to get a sense of how you're using this.

"... they even have bagpipes!"
That's very interesting. The hair on the back of my neck stands up when I hear umbrian pipes; I have every reason to believe there'd be something like that from my homeland, i.e Brettany.

p.s. I'm sorry can't hear that tune ... how about the page for ''Middle Eastern/North African Songs'' ... will it not stream? (I'm using WinAmp.)

BTW Laz

Date: 2005-02-02 05:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hfx-ben.livejournal.com
Ethnology: Turky reports that "Linguists recognize that Laz and Mingrelian are inherently unintelligible with each other."
Always fascinating!
From: [identity profile] solri.livejournal.com
Laz is a term used rather vaguely to refer to the population of the Black Sea coast, as well as those who actually speak Laz. They are easily picked out by their prominent noses and tendency to mangle the rules of Turkish vowel harmony. They are also the butt of the Turkish equivalent of Irish jokes.

The mandoline-like instrument you hear is probably a bağlama, an instrument common throughout Turkey. It looks like a very big mandoline (and for all I know might be the ancestor of that instrument).
From: [identity profile] hfx-ben.livejournal.com
Thanks for this ... I was tempted to say "boobooki"
Bağlama hunh ... it's got a great sound.

(Isn't the web great? Just for fun I googled boozooki, found myself at a band's site: "MOTAYEM Pêcheurs de Perles & Moneim Adwan" )"A Motayem is a passionate lover who gives himself up to love.") and after getting tangled with MP3 download from Lycos found this page of glorious pictures of Brettany
:-)